As I recall... a little history on feminism's SPLC claims

This post is actually a fleshed-out version of one of my responses in a skype conversation. In writing it, I realized that this particular bit of reddit's history hasn't been written down by anyone, so I thought I'd put it here. The following is from my memory.  

When the conflict between reddit feminists and /r/mensrights started, neither /r/mensrights nor /r/feminism had many subscribers. Reddit itself wasn't all that big yet. When it was new, its format was slightly different from the way it is now. Originally, links could be posted without choosing a subreddit. They were there, but they were not the focus for the site. They were for specialized posting when the link in question might not be fitting for general posting to the front page... but if you wanted to just post to reddit.com, you could. Both /r/feminism and /r/mensrights were created during that time, when subreddits were basically a side gig.

Contrary to feminist claims about men's issues discussion, it's been functional from the beginning. When /r/mensrights was new there was discussion about things like the Innocence Project, Dr. Farrell's writing, Murray Strauss's work, Erin Pizzey's work, etc. That was true even before AVFM had the readership or visibility in the movement that it has now. It took time for the staff to build up a body of sourced writing, and during that time it was just one among many blogs with sourced writing, all of which were regularly linked and cited in posts and comments on /r/mensrights. Discussion in the subreddit made it a communication hub for different groups of MRAs, where sources of information were offered, issues discussed, theories shared and evaluated, conclusions drawn, and even some real world activism planned. And while reddit's feminist presence divided itself among a plethora of heavily moderated subreddits (which feminist sub moderators have since labeled "the fempire,) for the longest time, men's issues discussion remained open, but centered firmly in /r/mensrights, leading to the faster and larger growth of that subreddit.

Feminists became upset that information contradicting their narrative was being shared and discussed in /r/mensrights. In fact, they didn't like any of what was going on in the subreddit, and some reddit feminists took it upon themselves to put a stop to it.

They began attacking /r/mensrights in a few different ways. Concern trolling complete with shaming tactics began immediately. There were a lot of women who seemed to think visiting the sub to state their disapproval would shame these unruly guys into silence, so there were actual lecture posts.

I wish today that I'd archived them, because it's hard to go back more than a few years on reddit, and some of those posts were really comical. One chick took the Nurse Ratched approach and demanded to know what our mothers would think if they knew "what we were doing in this subreddit." What I did eventually do was spend a little time archiving into a post titled "For the record" a set of links that includes concern troll posts and comments, manipulative efforts, and posts that appear to have been brigaded (targeted by other subreddits for vote or discussion manipulation). I'm not working on that as a project any more, having sampled a pretty good sized window in time, but if you look at today's posts on /r/mensrights, I'm sure you'll probably see some of the same things I noted during the creation of that archive.

Another form of attack was to make a sockpuppet account and post something positive that would garner emphatic responses, then edit it, changing to something that made the existing comments look misogynistic. That would then be archived and the archive of the edited post presented elsewhere on reddit as evidence of rampant misogyny in the sub. The mods of /r/mensrights had to employ a bot created by another redditor to archive posts so that there would be an accurate record when those accusations were made.

There were two results of this: One, the admins did temporarily ban /r/mensrights in its early stages, and we had to argue for it to be reinstated (it obviously was,)... and two, reddit was so inundated with complaints about posts and comments being edited to make responding comments look bad (in multiple subreddits) that they took user suggestions to denote edits. Posts and comments edited after the first 60 seconds are now marked with an asterisk, so now while you do have a chance to fix formatting, nobody can use editing to gaslight their commenters.

At the same time, there was a discussion among reddit's feminists about writing to the SPLC and asking them to declare men's rights activists a hate movement (referred to as "the MRA" because they apparently didn't know the "A" stood for Activists and not something like "Association.")

The SPLC article that feminists now cite as a declaration that the MRM is a hate movement came out shortly after that spate of edit-based gas-lighting and the reddit discussion. The speech it describes as hateful and misogynistic could just about only be what was presented after editing those posts.

Now, the SPLC itself is just a mouthpiece for the American left, for whom identity politics represents a major cash cow... and though they didn't apply the requested label, I believe the article is evidence that the organization was influenced by those demands from reddit feminists.

Even when the SPLC didn't do what feminists were asking, feminists immediately began citing the article to back the claim that the organization had labeled men's rights "a" hate group. They did that so quickly that I suspect we weren't even on the SPLC's radar until feminists started complaining about us, and that feminists have been bent on that goal (using the "hate group" label to discredit our advocacy) from the first time they heard of us.

Letter to Reddit's admins on the subject of #RedditRevolt

Sent using this link from /r/reddit, an archived subreddit for which the admins are moderators.

There are a number of reasons why I have been less and less active on Reddit during the past few years. Ellen Pao personified some of them, and I'm happy to see her go, but Reddit parting ways with her is only a step, not the whole road to recovery.   
   
I started using this site because I found it to be an effective and fun communication tool with which I could reach out to others who have similar interests. The ability to communicate openly and share information with a widespread user base was and is very valuable to me. Early on, under account names now defunct because I expressed political opinions someone didn't like, I made personal connections that never would have happened had the site not existed. I formed friendships with people all over the world. I discovered whole communities with a variety of interests and opinions, and a place for discussion and debate that helped me expand my knowledge and sharpen my critical thinking skills and as a result, evolve my whole outlook on life.    
   
And then something terrible happened.       
    
I watched you reduce Reddit's usefulness and comfortable openness with the addition of censorship tools armed and executed with political bias. I've seen you shadowban users for expressing disapproved opinions. I've seen you quietly eclipse or even delete discussions about disapproved topics. Simply put, I've watched the tools purportedly created to protect the site from spam get exploited as silencing tools to "protect" the site from open, meaningful discussion that might lead to conclusions which don't jive with a specific worldview.        
   
I've seen you selectively enforce rules of conduct depending on the political affiliation of the accused. I've seen you refuse to communicate with subreddit moderators, so that they cannot inform their subscribers on how to use the site without falling afoul of your increasingly limiting biases. I've seen you use arbitrary labeling to excuse banning links to small news sites based on whether or not they align with a specific worldview. Seeing you ban users for linking to news and research published on sites against which you have a political bias has been very disturbing. It indicates a sense of entitlement to manipulate public opinion by limiting what can be presented on a widely used discussion hub. You couldn't find a better way to destroy faith in site admins than these behaviors. This makes the site look unprofessional to the point of appearing as a fly-by-night operation.
   
Pao was a problem, but she wasn't THE problem. The censorship, the unequal application of site rules and site disciplinary measures, and the constant flouting of user interests in favor of arrogantly telling us what we should want and what we should like all started before she came to Reddit. Mistreating your users and mods is why #RedditRevolt exists. Firing one of your most popular employees because she wouldn't do something unethical was the last straw. Please ask Victoria Taylor to come back. She didn't deserve what was done to her and your consumers, the users of the site, are outraged at the way she was treated.
   
No matter who you put in the driver's seat, if your site stays on the road you've chosen there are many of us who will never be on board with you. We won't adopt a particular worldview if it becomes the only one permitted on Reddit. We'll abandon the site as the sinking ship it is, and go to one of many others which are available, or we will create our own, and because many of us have learned from #GamerGate's example, we can and will take the site's ad revenue with us.    
   
Political bias in site administration takes the social out of social networking. If you want to limit Reddit to just another of several social sites dominated by one small, ideologically restricted portion of the population, you're doing it right. You won't grow, but you'll have a nice, comfortable echo chamber in which to feel more influential than you can actually be in the environment you've created.    
    
If you want growth in user interest and enthusiasm, higher ranking, and to once again be the social communication hub that you started out as in the beginning, drop the political censorship and let people talk... even the ones who say things you don't like... bring back Victoria, and bring some transparency and consistency into your relationship with your consumers.     
   
State the site's rules clearly and make them unmistakable, so they will be easy to follow, and apply them evenly. Do not have or use "unwritten" rules. If it's unwritten, it's not a rule. It is unfair to all of your users and creates a hostile environment when you invent "rules" on the spot as an excuse to shadowban. And don't use your own rules against vote manipulation as a means of vote manipulation. We do notice when you do that.            
    
Don't feel that labeling some news & information sites "not journalistic" because they're small or you don't identify with their area of coverage justifies censoring links to them. That only creates an environment that is hostile to anyone wanting to discuss issues and concepts largely covered by media that isn't mainstream. People are capable of reading, assessing, and debating information presented with these links. Denying your users the choice is tantamount to treating us like we're too stupid to form our own opinions.     
   
Don't make yourselves unavailable to users who contact you, especially subreddit moderators. Don't make your subreddit moderators constantly beg for important information on site administration, rules, maintenance, and updates, especially given the amount of work many of them do without expecting anything in return. You are mistreating valuable unpaid volunteers. Nobody should have to tell you how unprofessional that is, or how unwise.    
    
That's it; all we're asking for is some transparency, and fair treatment of all of your employees, volunteers, and consumers. Those are not difficult requests to fulfill. Reddit doesn't have to sink because of this conflict. It can become better, stronger, and more stable. It's up to you, admins. If you tighten your grip, you'll choke Reddit to death. If you make it functional, unbiased, and open, you'll have the user base you want. We're all waiting to see which road you'll choose.

To be honest, for a long time I stopped bothering to write to Reddit's administrators because they have a long-standing habit of not listening, but right now they seem to be possibly inclined to it.

Am I holding my breath for a result?

Not at all. However, the only chance at salvaging the site is if even the most frustrated Redditors are willing to give it a shot, communicate our complaints to the administrators, and allow them a chance to fix things.
They're going to have to decide whether they want a social popular, influential bookmarking/networking site, or an echo chamber where they keep tight control on discussion while keeping their volunteers and their consumers largely in the dark about site administration. It's their job to try to fix things, but it's our job to communicate what we want to see, and whether or not the changes they're making are satisfactory. It's my hope that other redditors will also write to the admins, letting them know that the desire for transparency, fair treatment, and unbiased administration (and the reinstatement of Victoria Taylor) is a widely held interest.

Teach feminists not to lie

OP didn't get the desired response - so therefore he or she threw a tantrum and deleted the post. Nice... but I'm going to respond anyway, with two points.   
   
First, the "teach men not to rape" campaign is not designed to stop rape. It's designed to imply quite directly that rape is something men do - a flaw that exists in men that must be corrected. It does a terrible disservice to everyone by making it seem like rape is an accident. It's a social lie about men, a ridiculous misconception about the crime, and an insult to rape victims. It dilutes the crime down from "this person deliberately hurt that person" to "Oops, my bad. Sorry."

Saying the campaign is necessary because females don't understand that it's rape when they violate someone is just as ridiculous as saying the campaign is necessary because males don't understand. When a female rapes, she isn't doing that because she doesn't know it's wrong. She's doing that because she doesn't care, the same way as when a male rapes. Either she wants to hurt her victim, or she has a sense of entitlement (not the same as not knowing that abuse is wrong), or she has no moral compunctions against hurting someone to get what she wants, or she affords the rights and experiences of her victim less value and importance than she places on her own. The unvarnished, basic truth of rape is that you cannot violate the victim without violating the victim's bodily autonomy. You cannot violate the victim's bodily autonomy without knowing that you're ignoring the victim's right to say no, or ignoring the victim's circumstantial inability to say no.

An actual rapist, like any other abuser, isn't an innocent person who just stumbles past a boundary he or she doesn't know exists. The act of rape is a result of not caring about that boundary - deliberately contravening or ignoring another person's right or ability to refuse sexual contact. It isn't an accident, and it's shameful that feminism has begun using treatment of rape as an accidental behavior as part of their political agenda.

Second, even if such a campaign were justified by feminist logic, that same logic justifies starting a "Don't Teach Men Not to Get Falsely Accused. Teach Women Not to Lie" campaign.

Would you find it acceptable for the men's rights movement to start a "don't teach men to document their lives, teach women not to lie" campaign, complete with infographics, posters all over school campuses, social networking sites, and social clubs where men and women interact? Perhaps you could also assist in spreading the message that consent to social interaction is not consent to be dragged through the bowels of the legal system should one's acquaintance, friend, or partner decide that it's easier to make a rape accusation than to deal with some level of inconvenience... like fighting a custody battle, or even just paying a $13 cab fare?

Certainly, it should not matter that the majority of women don't make false accusations of rape or domestic violence. Based on the logic of the "Teach men not to rape" campaign, women who don't file false charges shouldn't be offended that such a campaign is being waged... they should be offended that society thinks so little of women's morals, toughness, and self-control that the problem of false accusations is so easily accepted and dismissed with excuses like "if you prosecute proven false accusers, female victims won't press charges."

Women should be deeply insulted by the assertion that we are so unable to differentiate between the truth and a false accusation that we'd fear prosecution too much to present evidence of any crime. Women should be horrified that society sees us as so weak and so incapable that compromising due process rights and incarcerating innocent men is seen as preferable to holding our accusations to the same standard of evidence that any other accusation of criminal assault faces. In light of the logic used to justify the "teach men not to rape" campaign, there really is no reason why women should object to the promotion of a related "teach women not to lie" campaign. In fact, since the "teach men not to rape" campaign encourages men to police other men's behavior, ethical women should should feel responsible for making sure the anti-lie message also gets heard.

So... when is feminism going to get to work on that?

Conflict between feminist advocates and the rest of us

This post was originally a comment I left in reply to an Explain It Like I'm Five post, asking the question, "ELI5: why does the issue of women's rights stir up so much anger?"
It was suggested that I post my answer to that in the Men's Rights Wiki. I looked through the listed categories and could not find a heading under which I thought the comment really fit. There are things I'm working on that might more likely belong there, but those are longer term projects. In the meantime, I'm making the comment an entry here, instead.

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It isn't necessarily women's rights issues which are the area of conflict, but feminist advocacy. The two are not necessarily the same. My explanation as to why:

Feminists fail to differentiate between having a fundamental need, and having a fundamental right. The pursuit of conditions or factors to meet fundamental needs (eg., putting forth effort to obtain food and shelter) is a human right. The receipt of conditions or factors to meet fundamental needs (eg., having food and shelter provided at the expense of others) is not a fundamental right, but an act of charity on the part of the provider (as long as it's voluntary - otherwise, it's theft by the recipient, even when those things are needed.) With this misapplication of the word "right," feminists treat the condition of being given possession or position as if it were the same as the condition of having one's pursuit not be being wrongfully obstructed.

Another problem which has a side effect upon this is that feminist advocates fail to differentiate between fundamental needs, and dearly valued/wanted conveniences. Food and shelter are fundamental needs. Yummy food and nice shelter are dearly valued/wanted conveniences. Feminists go beyond claiming the right to the pursuit of fulfillment of fundamental needs to claim the right to receive dearly valued/wanted conveniences.
 
One outgrowth of that combination of beliefs is the sense of entitlement to enforce the provision of the fulfillment of needs or dearly held wants upon other human beings; treating as a given fact upon which society must base law and policy, "If A has a need for or dearly held want of factor 1, B must provide it," where A is the individual with whom feminism identifies itself, and B is the individual with whom feminism takes issue.

This is further modified by another fundamental flaw in the movement; Patriarchy Theory, which in short, blames upon male society all issues or conditions which feminists define as oppression of women. Patriarchy Theory makes female society group A, and male society group B.
So you have a group which labels having (as opposed to not being prevented from reasonably pursuing) that which women want or need to be a right, and asserts that as justification for demanding or taking it from men.

Now, the feminist movement has been treated as the architect and arbiter of women's rights advocacy since its inception, even though not all women subscribe to the feminist line of reasoning, much lest feminist theory. Many of us do not believe that there is systematic, institutionalized discrimination against women in first world countries. Antifeminist women do not believe in Patriarchy theory, Rape Culture theory, or even the feminist description of gender roles as male oppression of women. This leads to conflict between groups of women, who do not all hold the same sets of beliefs and values or all perceive society in the same way, over what is or should be defined as "women's rights," and advocated in the name of women in general.

Then, you have men in the western world waking up to the fact that as society has changed, and women's roles have evolved (in part through feminist advocacy, and in part due to advancements in technology and the advent of conveniences which reduce the effort which both sexes must put into simple survival,) society's expectations of men, and the legal requirements accompanying those expectations, haven't relaxed much at all.
 
That realization has been one of the bigger contributing factors to the growth of the men's rights movement, comprised of people who have noticed that the practical application of feminist advocacy in enforcement of male gender roles authoritative societal imposition of provision for women's wants and needs upon men - is in fact a violation of men's basic human rights, particularly the right to liberty.

In some cases this involves a direct transfer of material possessions from men to women (alimony, child support) and in some, indirect (social programs for custodial parents, funded by income taxes; free birth control for women, funded by taxes.)
In other cases this involves wrongfully obstructing men's pursuit of the fulfillment of needs and wants (preferential treatment in hiring and promotion.)
In some, it involves wrongfully unbalancing the application of policy in the justice system (infringing upon due process rights, unequal treatment in civil disputes and criminal cases, for the imposed protection of only women.)

In other words, despite decades of feminist advocacy claiming female independence and female responsibility, the practical application of feminist theory/advocacy manifests in the difference in social and legal obligations between the sexes, where men are expected to protect and provide, and women may be shielded from conditions and responsibilities which men are expected to face and embrace.
 
That's the base issue between those movements, before you even get to the concepts of what constitutes discrimination or oppression, and what constitutes equality. At the very bottom of every area of conflict between feminism and antifeminist women, and feminism and the MRM, is a struggle over that disagreement; the feminist belief that women have the right to demand or take what we want or need from men, and the antifeminist and MRActivist contention that no, we don't. This is the conflict which creates the big hullabaloo over pretty much any discussion on gender rights.

For the record

Note to readers visiting from the link in the comment section of Manboobz: You may find this relevant.

I've been noticing it for a while... talking about it for a while, and replying as best I can when it happens; an influx of feminist posters, commenters, and voters in reddit's /r/mensrights. I've seen that other MRAs have started to notice it, too, so I decided to do a search in the sub using the word feminist, and highlight some of the posts which either were troll posts, or included a lot of feminist trolling.

Read: that means if your post is included in this list, that doesn't necessarily mean I think you are a troll. Before anyone gets hurt feelings, look through not just the post itself, but the comments underneath, or look through the list to see if your post (or the comment response) is part of a pattern I'm noting. I've tagged some posts to make it easier to see, but I don't have time to go through and tag everything.   
There are several, including (but not limited to)

• "Feminism is your friend. You just don't understand." (Can't we all just get along?)
• "Not All Feminists Are Like That" (NAFALT)
• Tone policing, including "don't criticize feminism," "you sound whiny," "you sound misogynistic," etc.
• "You're not good enough" (You're not doing anything. You're not helping group X. You're not talking about topic Y.)
• Attempts to sneak feminist rhetoric into the sub
• Divide and Conquer - attempts to create animosity or other conflict between /r/mensrights and other groups, or deny that the men's rights movement includes groups that are included in the movement (like gay men's rights, or trans rights.)
• Fishing - posting something inflammatory or carefully worded to create an emotional response in order to facilitate quote mining.

   
That also means that if there's a lot of feminist support in the comments, that doesn't necessarily mean I don't think the post is a troll post, either - it may well be. Rather than placing a label, I'm simply tracking patterns.  
  
This post is not intended to call any specific redditor out (though if I have someone tagged as SRS or AMR, that's not getting removed from your name when I post it here.) Nor is it complete. There are posts I remember responding to in the past that I did not find using this method, so this entry will be periodically updated as I am able to go back and find those, as well. I have seen 2 to 4 a month up until the last few weeks, when there has been a dramatic increase, as far as I can tell.  
   
If you see posts you think belong here, PM me on reddit or leave a comment here, and I'll update. 

*note - I've recently added links to several self-posts which are all variations on asking if the MRM supports gay rights, or claiming it doesn't and asking why. If you see your post here, it doesn't mean I'm calling your post a troll post. It is simply that we're seeing the same self-posts over and over on this topic, with small variation, and that's a pattern.


Why is feminism discussed so much on this subreddit? (self.MensRights)
submitted 30 Apr 2014 by futfootballer  /u/AMRthroaway linked to AMR


i don't understand (self.MensRights)

submitted 21 Apr 2014* by aerxo17

So, I've been calling feminist groups in Canada about my effort to open more men's shelters, and have been pleasantly surprised. (self.MensRights)
submitted 19 Apr 2014 by William_Red
/r/againstmensrights vote manipulation used to boost feminist-friendly comments to top of thread

An example of feminism done right. (self.MensRights)
submitted 17 Apr 2014 by Broken_Castle 

Are men's rights in the US really being impinged upon? How? (self.MensRights)
submitted 17 Apr 2014 by MyUnpopularThoughts

Working for mens rights is wrong. Read before you down vote. (self.MensRights)

submitted 12 Apr 2014 by Zacky007

Do any MRAs acknowledge that men have systemic privilege over women? (self.MensRights)

submitted 12 Apr 2014 by DemonicHeartYeah, no.
Privilege as a cattle prod

Gay MRAs? (self.MensRights)

(51|29) submitted 11 Apr 2014 by dullboy9000

Serious question: why is the Mens Rights Movement so opposed to feminism? (self.MensRights)

(92|28) submitted 08 Apr 2014 by adevil

Another gay-man questioning the Men's Rights Movement, I ask, what should clinch it for me? (self.MensRights)

(8|6) submitted 08 Apr 2014* by SemperFlea

I'm getting real tired of the tone in the MR subreddit. (self.MensRights)

(91|74) submitted 08 Apr 2014 by TastyRemnent

(serious question) How many of you guys have resentment towards women? (self.MensRights)

(10|15) submitted 07 Apr 2014* by PoetryMuse

(Visits MR subreddit, totally misses the fact that many MRAs ARE women)

Why is it that /r/mensrights is a controversial subreddit, but /r/feminism is not. (self.MensRights)

(51|21) submitted 07 Apr 2014 by OttersAreSuperCool

As a queer boy, can i be a MRA? (self.MensRights)

submitted 06 Apr 2014 by Kuramo

Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist? (np.reddit.com)

submitted 03 Apr 2014 by jcoe-in which wreckedsomething admits, in a roundabout way, to regularly violating reddit's rules on vote-manipulation.
This comment amounts to the claim that linking to a comment in a thread equals vote brigading, 

It also comes from someone who regularly links to /r/mensrights.
Now, one can reasonably argue that linking to a comment does not constitute brigading, especially when the link is an np (nonparticipation) link. However, one can't so reasonably argue that one who says that linking to a comment is done for the purpose of brigading is innocent of attempting to brigade when linking to a comment.

What does being a male rights activist mean to you? (self.MensRights)

submitted 26 Mar 2014 by appleeyed

Everyone knows that feminism/men's rights has nothing to do with sex, right? (self.MensRights)

(3|8) submitted 26 Mar 2014 by Prankster_Bob

So what do you guys represent exactly? (self.MensRights)

submitted 26 Mar 2014 * by OMoraine

NAFALT..... It Has Its Reasons (self.MensRights)

submitted  26 Mar 2014 by rocelot7

Serious question--what is r/mensrights stance on feminism? I truly am confused, and want to try to understand a little better. (self.MensRights)

submitted  21 Mar 2014 by nonhiphipster

Discussion. Men's Rights Activists are misunderstood, all Feminists are evil. (self.MensRights)

submitted  16 Mar 2014 by Mohaan

Do MRAs have a victim mentality? (self.MensRights)

(43|32) submitted 16 Mar 2014 by Mouon

About the feminism posts.. (self.MensRights)

submitted 08 Mar 2014 by Winter_of_Discontent

Is there a term for someone who advocates equal gender rights? (self.MensRights)

(7|5) submitted 18 Feb 2014 by murtaza64

Honey Badger Radio: Mary Koss and the American Rape Machine (self.MensRights)

submitted 13 Feb 2014 by typhonblue 
Brigaded

This subreddit's made me paranoid. (self.MensRights)

(40|14) submitted 13 Feb 2014 by RelentlesslyDead

Not calling this a troll post by any means, but part of a pattern. I have noticed that periodically, there's a post like this with a lot of replies from names I don't see a lot in the sub.

Xpost - As a trans woman, I feel like I am not welcomed in most communities, but especially in the Men's Rights Movement. I would think MRAs would be the strongest supporters of trans* issues, but they aren't. Why is this? (self.MensRights)

(50|37) submitted 13 Feb 2014 by XisanXbeforeitsakiss
This is not a troll post, but it links to a post that goes along with a pattern I've seen with young accounts claiming to have visited /r/mensrights, read unspecified posts, and come to the conclusion that the sub and sometimes the movement is anti-some factor, usually something it's politically incorrect to oppose or criticize. When called the anti-factor claim, they offer replies that boil down to "you disagreed with something I or someone else said that I or they linked to (whatever the factor was) and therefore you're anti-(that factor.) Following an original post along the lines of "I had subjective experience X as a factor-1 person, therefore conclusion," MRAs may argue that the experience is subjective, that factor-1 doesn't make the experience applicable to everyone, or that the conclusion is based on some other flawed thinking. That is cited by anyone supporting the poster's stated conclusion as an indication that the sub is anti-factor-1, not because it's an indication of such, but because that's easier to do than make arguments supporting the conclusion. I've seen being gay or female as the factor a lot, but the trend lately seems to be using "I'm transgender" instead.

Do me a favor, guys? (self.MensRights)

submitted  11 Feb 2014 by lolbye2

Don't get me wrong... (self.MensRights)

(1|8) submitted  11 Feb 2014 by jcoe

Really stupid question: can someone explain to me, in layman's terms, why antifeminism isn't sexist and how antifeminists can still be for equality? (self.MensRights)

submitted  06 Feb 2014 by throwaway41823

As an MRA, this pretty much sums up how I feel! :) (leftycartoons.com)

 submitted 05 Feb 2014 by lolbye1

Open question to MRAs: Why do you oppose feminism? (self.MensRights)

submitted  31 Jan 2014 by Vladith

Question: A thought about this subreddit (self.MensRights)

submitted  23 Jan 2014 by smariroach

Men are not to blame (from /imgoingtohellforthis) (imgur.com)

 submitted  21 Jan 2014 by Dexter77
Brigaded

What (if anything) is wrong with infant circumcision? (blog.oup.com)

submitted  16 Jan 2014 by [gutless snot who deleted their account almost immediately]

Many feminisms vs. many MRMs (self.MensRights)

submitted  13 Jan 2014* by guywithaccount

[Serious Question] Is this movement polluted with misogyny, or are the extremists just sticking out? (self.MensRights)

submitted  11 Jan 2014 by transsisterradio

What is one part of feminism that you agree with/acknowledge? (self.MensRights)

submitted  05 Jan 2014 by gblr

My biggest problem with this sub (self.MensRights)

submitted 29 Dec 2013 by Apemazzle

I have an intersectional question for you guys. (self.MensRights)

submitted 29 Dec 2013 ago by slu-g

Just a little confused about the whole men's rights thing. Are any of you interested in helping women gain equal rights as well, or is this strictly a men thing? Someone please educate me. (self.MensRights)

submitted 23 Dec 13 by stillissitting

A letter to the men's rights movement (dearnonacepeople.tumblr.com)

 submitted 23 Dec 13 ago by ezra811

A trans woman's question for MensRights (self.MensRights)

submitted 19 Dec 13* by summersanne
The short version: "I'm a trans-woman who entered life as a woman carrying a belief in the concept of male privilege, and have interpreted all of my experiences as confirmation of it. Since I'm trans, you now have to believe in male privilege."

Bonus: Brigaded by /r/againstmensrights.

All of you are setting yourselves back. (self.MensRights)

submitted 18 Dec 13 by [deleted]

(OP didn't even stick around for a day.)

Why did sillymod remove the Occidental College post?" Let me tell you why. (self.MensRights)

submitted 17 Dec 13 by sillymod
Vote and comment brigaded by SRS, AMR, and SRD
Also, I was able to get an interesting result by engaging AMR trolls in discussion under the post.

Transmen & MRM (self.MensRights)

submitted 16 Dec 2013 by infinette

Why Men's Rights? (self.MensRights)

submitted 13 Dec 2013  by relaxandenjoy

Is feminism really that bad? (self.MensRights)

submitted 13 Dec 2013 by NickAckerman

What do you think about street harassment? Do women have a right to be upset about it? (self.MensRights)

submitted 12 Dec 2013 ago by buddyloveshispie

Am I wrong for thinking the Men's Rights movement is just stooping to the levels of feminism? (self.MensRights)

submitted 12 Dec 2013 by hambeast24
"Talking about men's issues is whining. Disagreeing with me that talking about men's issues is whining makes you a feminist."

Thoughts about "Gender is a social construct" (self.MensRights)

submitted 09 Dec 2013 by justcallmeaddie

This is NOT who we are, and this is NOT Okay. (imgur.com)

 submitted 04 Dec 2013 by chris3992m

[Question] If feminists are the ones in power, why are such a huge majority of people in congress and in administrative positions men? (self.MensRights)

(4|6) submitted  02 Dec 2013 by deathbutton1

How can we find common ground? (self.MensRights)

(39|10) submitted 02 Dec 2013 * by FractalDude

HS teacher here, grading a student's paper on Rape Culture. (self.MensRights)

submitted  29 Nov 2013 by 11thGRADEteacher

Was I wrong about r/MensRights? Help me out. (self.MensRights)

submitted 27 Nov 2013* by WheyDaBusAt

Overall, do you think MRA is a force for good in the world right now? (self.MensRights)

submitted  26 Nov 2013 by Titsout4theboiz

Has there been a discussion on here about MRAs, red pill swallowers, misogyny, and the lines between? (self.MensRights)

(6|11) submitted 23 Nov 2013 by IjustcametosayAnyang
Divide and Conquer

Do most Men's Rights activists support The Red Pill? (self.MensRights)

submitted  21 Nov 2013 by Horrorbuff2
Divide and Conquer

Why men's rights and feminism are essentially the same thing in my opinion. (self.MensRights)

submitted 19 Nov 2013* by deathbutton1

Hey guys/gals... (self.MensRights)

submitted 19 Nov 2013 ago by zwirlo
 

Do you want me? (self.MensRights)

submitted  17 Nov 2013* by a_personification

Why Men's Rights doesn't make sense (self.MensRights)

submitted 15 Nov 2013* by Ultraoctopus

Can I be a Feminist and an MRA? (self.MensRights)

submitted 04 Nov 2013* by macnalley

Confused about the perception of Men's Rights (self.MensRights)

submitted 04 Nov 2013 by perfectdesignNot a troll post, but the post itself was trolled in the comments.

Guys, there is a big problem with this sub. (self.MensRights)

submitted 22 Oct 2013 by nocbl2

A FtM transgender perspective on the change in privilege (feministhivemind.com)

submitted  17 Oct 2013 by Smallpaul

I am a queer man. Explain how Men's rights actually help me in any way (self.MensRights)

submitted 10 Oct 2013 by thighproblem

A call to Mens Rights. (Probably done by those who "cry wolf", but please pay attention) (self.MensRights)

submitted 04 Oct 2013* by NeonPiggy

Dear MRA (self.MensRights)

submitted 2 Oct 2013 * by ZerowithanH

What do you think about the misogyny in GTA 5? (self.MensRights)

(2|3) submitted 1 Oct 2013 by hhoburg

Something to Keep in Mind (self.MensRights)

submitted 01 Oct 2013 ago by boradin

Not All MRAs Are Like That (self.MensRights)

(109|30) submitted 30 Sep 2013 by onetenth

"Why Men Need Feminism Too" - This lens of feminism seemed to align with the Men's Rights movement more than most I've seen. Thoughts? (everydayfeminism.com)

(11|9) submitted  27 Sep 2013 by WheyDaBusAt

So is this sub reddit about equality or superiority? Serious question. (self.MensRights)

(8|10) submitted 26 Sep 2013 by Mishap89

Not just a straight white male's movement (self.MensRights)

submitted  19 Sep 2013 by Anonaux

Has the time come for us to stop being anti-feminist? (self.MensRights)

submitted 19 Sept 2013 by seego79

Men's rights looks like an anti-feminist group only. Have to dig to get the "rights" part. Warning: long (self.MensRights)

submitted 17 Sept 2013* by stageflight

How do you feel about r/TheRedPill? How does a man reach that mentality? (self.MensRights)

submitted on 14 Sep 2013 by __banana

I'm not ready to say "pattern" after just 2 "let's associate MR with TRP posts, but still...
Divide and Conquer

Hello r/mensrights (self.MensRights)

submitted 02 Sep 2013 by didosrevenge

Hi. People on this site seem to talk about feminists a lot, but..
submitted on 23 Aug 2013 by Kate150

Is there a place in MensRights for me? (self.MensRights)

submitted 22 Aug 2013 by PinkiePo

A little confusion maybe you can clear up? (self.MensRights)
submitted  11 Aug 2013 by punxpunx54"I've seen the term "red pill" thrown around here. Does this refer to the subreddit, or is it referring to the phrase as an alternative to "having my eyes opened"?

What are the general thoughts about the sub TRP and the manhood academy?"

Transmen and transwomen (self.MensRights)

submitted 06 Aug 2013 by recentlyunearthed

I saw this post refuting the bias against men in court. Was wondering what you thought of it. (self.MensRights)

submitted 4 August 2013* by No_Fudge

Infographic: 40% of rapists are female (i.imgur.com)

 submitted submitted on 03 Aug 2013 by Frankly_No

Brigaded.

/r/MensRights - You're being brigaded and you should know about it (self.MensRights)

submitted 01 Aug 2013 by CosmicKeys
This is not a spam or troll post, but instead describes brigading that has happened in relation to discussion on the Anita Sarkeesian videos.

Very fair opinion piece on the MRM (bostonglobe.com)

submitted 31 Jul 2013 by 6aerataob
Tone Policing, Divide and Conquer 

Do men's rights only extend to straight men? (self.MensRights)

submitted 23 Jul 2013 by KGBway

Something I want to get off my chest about things I see in this subreddit and the movement in general (self.MensRights)

submitted 16 Jul 2013 by mrathingy

Is there interest for a subreddit that holds a forum between MensRights and feminist? (self.MensRights)

submitted 08 Jul 2013* by storm181

What keeps MRAs and Feminists from working together? (self.MensRights)

submitted 08 Jul 2013 by tansincosine

I'm pro-gender equality and agree with both certain aspects of mainstream feminism and certain aspects of the mens' rights movement. I really want to see the good parts of both succeed, not fail and continue to clash. (self.MensRights)

submitted  04 Jul 2013 by Feminist_MRA

"What Will We Concede To Feminism": UPDATE (self.MensRights)

submitted  03 Jul 2013 by AlexReynard

[Meta] "Common ground" b/w Feminism/MRM? (self.MensRights)

submitted 15 Jun 2013 by FeloniousAsFuck

I'm a feminist, I like you guys, ask me whatever and see what an intelligent feminist really thinks. (self.MensRights)

(98|59) submitted 12 Jun 2013 by hall31605

What kind of bullshit is this? (i.imgur.com)

 submitted 09 June 2013 by Down-n-Dirty

 Brigaded, Tone Policing

What is the most mainstream/moderate MRA website? (self.MensRights)

submitted 8 June 2013 by HappyGerbil88
Tone Policing: Attempts to use term "Misogynistic" in describing men's rights blogs to poison MRAs against outspoken Men's rights bloggers. 

Dear the Mens Rights Movement, (self.MensRights)

(103|41) submitted 31 May 2013 by Little_maroon_alien

Are you a men's right's activist and a feminist? - poll (wepolls.com)

submitted 31 May 2013 by MrScolex

Please hear me out.. (self.MensRights)

submitted 29 May 2013* by indigotrip

Feminist here- Let me explain some things a few of you have misinterpreted. (self.MensRights)

(15|20) submitted 29 May 2013* by bubbleearth

I really enjoy Anita Sarkeesians BS rant on the "Male power complex" in gaming as a whole (feministfrequency.com)

submitted  28 May 2013  the_shakeweight

It would be funny seeing this Us/Them warefare between disingenuous versions of "Feminism" and "Men's Rights" if its implications didn't seem so tragic. (self.MensRights)

(11|8) submitted  28 May 2013 by MaunderingMoose

Men's Issues are Misogyny and Patriarchy (isnerdy.tumblr.com)

 submitted 21 May 2013 by Camerinthus

MRAs: Do you care about women's rights? (self.MensRights)

(7|3) submitted 16 May 2013 by turiyag

A new take on the old Violinist Thought Experiment (self.MensRights)

submitted 14 May 2013* by ddxxdd
Brigaded 

To all MRA: Not all women are against men's rights. I am on your side. (self.MensRights)

submitted 06 May 2013 by mramrs

Technically shouldn't Men's Rights advocates just be Feminists? (self.MensRights)

submitted 06 May 2013 by mehjbmeh

What do you guys think of transgenders? (self.MensRights)

submitted 04 May 2013 by Notafemalethrowaway

An Argument of Semantics: What does feminism mean to you? (self.MensRights)

submitted 03 May 2013 by videoninja

From an avid men's rights advocate, a few observations on this subreddit. (self.MensRights)

submitted 02 May 2013* by fecal_encephalopathy
Tone Policing, NAFALT

So, I identify as an MRA and a feminist. I received this flak in the feminism subreddit for daring to voice that feminism is imperfect. (self.MensRights)

submitted  02 May 2013 by HalfysReddit

From r/feminism - Fuck you battered men, we don't want your problems here (self.MensRights)

submitted 30 Apr 2013* by DaNiceguy

Heavily Brigaded.

Trauma, and why it's relevant to common grievances aired on this sub (self.MensRights)

submitted 29 Apr 2013* by royzin

What do MRAs think of Women's rights? (self.MensRights)

submitted 29 Apr 2013 by lost-and-confused-

Why do people not take men's rights seriously? (self.MensRights)

submitted  29 Apr 2013 by GanbatteSisyphus

The Reason I'm unsubscribing from r/MensRights (self.MensRights)

submitted 26 Apr 2013 * by Tsaxmafia

More People should Know This (i.imgur.com)

   submitted  22 Apr 2013 cypherdtraitor
NAFALT, but guys, it's a graphic so believe it! 
 

Is the Men's movement a waste of time (self.MensRights)

submitted 20 Apr 2013 by Typicaledgyname
Day old account, depressing message, maybe not a troll, but it sure looks like one.

A question about circumcision (self.MensRights)

(2|5) submitted 19 Apr 2013 by ga13be

Question About /r/Mensrights's Beliefs (self.MensRights)

submitted 19 Apr 2013 by mattblau

This is how we should act towards one another at all times. I hate posts that suggest anything different. (reddit.com)

submitted 18 Apr 2013 by DerFisher
(Originally linked from /r/mensrights. Post removed by OP, who didn't like responses to it.)

It took me all day to formulate the words I've been looking for to describe MRA effectively. (self.MensRights)

(7|5) submitted  18 Apr 2013 by GregoryPanic
Not a troll or brigade - just shows that there are MRAs who do not know everything feminism has done.

Female professor tries to ruin man's academic career over ONE overheard f-bomb. FIRE saves his life and checks her privilege. (boingboing.net)

submitted 13 Apr 2013 by Kingle0nidas
Brigaded.

Paul Elam should take down register-her.com (self.MensRights)

submitted 12 Apr 2013 by memymineown
OP is longstanding MRA, but post invaded by trolls due to subject matter.

Is Feminism misunderstood by the MRM, and vice versa? (self.MensRights)

(3|4) submitted  07 Apr 2013 * by NEET_Here

Men's Rights necessarily always opposed to feminist principles? (self.MensRights)

submitted 04 Apr 2013 by feminazi_ftw

This sub spends too much time complaining about feminism and not enough time pushing forward men's rights and changes in the treatment of men. (self.MensRights)

submitted 31 Mar 2013* by vaselinepete

Is gay rights a worthy cause to join forces with Feminists and end this ridiculousness across the country? (self.MensRights)

submitted on 27 Mar 2013 by nobodysothername
(wonder why a sub where gay rights does get discussed keeps getting asked if gay rights are part of the discussion?)

Gay rights are men's rights. (self.MensRights)

submitted 27 Mar 2013* by WikipediaBrown

Guys, women aren't your enemy. The patriarchy is. (self.MensRights)

submitted on 25 Mar 2013* by yourblacksister

Why is the men's rights movement treated like a joke? (self.MensRights)

(23|24) submitted on 19 Mar 2013 by nutflushdraw
This one is pretty ridiculous, apparently posted just to give SRSers a place to circlejerk in the sub. Regularly posting MRAs are downvoted into hiding, while the top voted comment is a blatantly feminist viewpoint not actually related to the sub or the movement. Not even sure what kind of an effect they thought this effort would achieve.

Is there a middle ground? (self.MensRights)

submitted 17 Mar 2013 by sherylintexas

It's time this movement did a little cleanup. (self.MensRights)

submitted 15 Mar 2013 by HalfysReddit

A friendly reminder. (self.MensRights)

(93|46) submitted on 01 Mar 2013* by smallsmerry01

Antifeminism, men's rights, and equality (self.MensRights)

submitted 24 Feb 2013 by NemosHero

r/MensRights: why aren't we working together? (self.MensRights)

submitted  18 Feb 2013 by bravestlittletoaster

This is in the counseling center at my high school. I'm glad to see this moving into more learning environments. (i.imgur.com)

 (690|143)submitted 13 Feb 2013 by icamefromtumblr

Found in r/facebookwins thought it more appropriate here. (i.imgur.com)

  (656|133) submitted 13 Feb 2013 by SUPERSMILEYMAN
Fishing
This is not an MR regular. The wording of the post itself is rather fake - it's like a parody of "women behaving badly" posts, intended to set off comments. I think this one is trolling with intent to inspire speech which can be labeled "hate speech."

Apparently men can't have a gym and ribs night at university without it being undone by feminists and white knights. (facebook.com)

(128|21) submitted 13 Feb 2013 by gingerninjer2

I very strongly suspect this of being designed to get people's facebook profile information.

Should anti-feminist material be posted in this subreddit? (self.MensRights)

(3|1) submitted  12 Feb 2013  by ElfmanLV

Can we make a "No Facebook screenshots" rule around here? (self.MensRights)

(46|19) submitted 11 Feb 2013 by eosri1

Urgent Help Needed: My Wife had my 10-year-old son circumcised and threw me out of the house (self.MensRights)

(327|94) submitted  09 Feb 2013 by MercedezBento

Why I worship women (self.MensRights)

(3|8) submitted on 08 Feb 2013 by goddessworshipper

MensRights as a subreddit (self.MensRights)

(3|0) submitted  06 Feb 2013 by kwyjibo1230

I have a question of semantics that shouldn't matter, but does to a lot of people... (self.MensRights)

submitted  06 Feb 2013 by somethingofdoom

Can we please stop using the word "Feminist" in relation to "Women who want special privileges for being a woman" (self.MensRights)

(9|13) submitted 06 Feb 2013 by XWindX

Something that made me rethink feminists (No big victory, but it ends well for me...) (self.MensRights)

(13|0) submitted 06 Feb 2013 by They_Killed_Kenny

MRA and Feminism, we shouldn't be enemies we should be partners (self.MensRights)

(12|10) submitted  03 Feb 2013 by occupythekitchen

Is there a site which focuses on men's issues but is friendly toward feminism? (self.MensRights)

(28|17) submitted 02 Feb 2013 by viganhe005

Why I'm leaving this subreddit. (self.MensRights)

(87|65)  01 Feb 2013 ago by ezra_epwell

This needs to stop. Now...again (np.reddit.com)

submitted 26 Jan 2013 by T-rex_with_a_gun

I'm getting really sick of this shit (rant) (self.MensRights)

submitted  25 Jan 2013 ago by ExiledSenpai

I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism. (i.imgur.com)

 submitted  24 Jan 2013 by FEMANON_HERE

Feminist brigaded

Very impressed with so many woman accepting it's fair for them to be eligible for the draft "With women now allowed in combat roles, should they be required to sign up for the selective service as well?" xpost from askreddit (reddit.com)

this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2013 by macman156

NAFALTing in comments

[SUGGESTION ]War is not anti "male privilege" (self.MensRights)

(1|4) submitted 23 Jan 2013 by Jaguscoth

A CONSTRUCTIVE Observation about MRA as Ideology (self.MensRights)

(3|1) submitted 23 Jan 2013* by Buckmop

A myth is a myth is a myth... unless there's a political group dedicated to ignoring it. Then the methods by which it was created continue to be employed, and eventually get picked up by the CDC. (self.MensRights)

(89)|(24) submitted 18 Jan 2013* by oneiorosgrip

Brigaded

As a woman, is /r/MensRights concerned with gender equality, or just fixing male-oriented problems in society? (self.MensRights)

(1|0) submitted  22 Jan 2013 by whitecheddarnomcormz

Is the wage gap not true? (self.MensRights)

(22|3) submitted 22 Jan 2013 by Xc2U

Hey r/MensRights! I agree with a lot of what you guys say, but I have one question (self.MensRights)

(28)|(13) submitted 22 Jan 2013* by scrollbackup

My opinion on some of the content in /r/mensrights (self.MensRights)

(18|3) submitted 20 Jan 2013* by Shrub_Ninja

Is there space for Gay men in MensRights? (self.MensRights)

submitted 20 Jan 2013* by gayrebel

I wanted to hear about what you guys think about using the word "egalitarianism". (self.MensRights)

(3|1) submitted 13 Jan 2013 by anhero23

I'm actually offended and ashamed that you're eating this shit. (i.imgur.com)

(539|179) submitted 13 Jan 2013 by dinky_hawker

This thread is a response to the one listed below, contains vote brigading and a shitload of feminist apologists.

A message for us all, xposted from /r/feminism (i.imgur.com)

(1957|689) submitted  12 Jan 2013 by DougDante This thread contains vote brigading and feminist apologists.

What happened to this subreddit? (self.MensRights)

(4|2) submitted 12 Jan 2013 by SpaghettiLeftovers

Honest Question: Why do you folks not believe that we live in a patriarchy? (self.MensRights)

(34|33) submitted 10 Jan 2013 by DebbieKilljoyDowner

Is it possible to be a Feminist AND a MRA? (self.MensRights)

(5|3) submitted  10 Jan 2013 by morty369

      (Why can't we all just get along?)   (Again)

We Can Do It! (i.imgur.com)

 submitted  09 Jan 2013 by kelloo

Post highlights the fraud behind Rosie the riveter poster. Issue is obvious - Rosie wasn't up to "equal work."
Immediately garnered "this is not a men's rights issue" and a brigade.

An appeal: Please stop posting the Kanin study ("42% of rape accusations are false") (self.MensRights)

(11|8) submitted  09 Jan 2013 by arrace415

Essentially, "I'm a feminist... please stop posting the Kanin study. I believe it's invalid because it used methodology similar to that used by feminists (small sample size), because Kanin was ethical, because it's based on women admitting that they lied, because polygraphs were used. The bottom line - (aside from the polygraph bit, which I can buy, but which doesn't carry the argument by itself) still the same old feminist crap about considering a rape accusation true if it isn't proved false, or guilty until proven innocent. Further, arrace415 asserts that a rape report is not an accusation, and that the accused isn't harmed by the report - a statement that assumes that every false report never gets past the paper stage, as if the accuser never says anything outside of the report itself. This completely ignores the effects caused by leveling such a serious charge. Conclusion: Troll trying to stop a useful argument from being circulated.

Thread with legit question gets brigaded by feminists through SRD

I need some clarification. I've recently been apart of some drama in Askwomen and SRD. I was accused of being creepy, but was I? (self.MensRights)

 submitted  09 Jan 2013 by HeyFunkyPianist
 

New rape prevention campaign in vancouver drops sexual assault by 10% (freethoughtblogs.com)

submitted  09 Jan 2013 by NVDNVDNV

What is this sub's general consensus regarding Paul Elam? (self.MensRights)

(4|2) submitted 07 Jan 2013 by vanillabean2492
(Divide and conquer)

Petition by Avaaz to get the Indian government to change sexual assault laws and prevent rapes like the infamous one in Dehli last month. (avaaz.org)

(7|5) submitted  04 Jan 2013 by TomBurlinson

Women out-earn men in pharmacy, Earth sciences, and computer science. And they still don't think female privilege exists? (abc.net.au)

(180|70) submitted 03 Jan 2013 by arrogantfootball
Brigaded

What's your opinion on biological determinism explaining some aspects of the social phenomena feminists protest? (self.MensRights)

(5|1) submitted  03 Jan 2013 by Qhost

VAWA (self.MensRights)

(4|1) submitted  03 Jan 2013 by HoopyFreud

What have we become? (self.MensRights)

(3|8) submitted  03 Jan 2013* by SamuelRAnger

Just as a note: Paternal Rights is a Feminist project. (self.MensRights)

(7|7) submitted  03 Jan 2013 by Scout_1029

Question to you MRAs on rape (self.MensRights)

(1|15) submitted 03 Jan 2013 by EuroSoc

(Fishing post)

"Male Privilege"; what does it mean to you and why does this sub hate the phrase so much? (self.MensRights)

(7|12) submitted 03 Jan 2013 by DJ_Fleetwood_MacBook

NAFALT and the Out-Group Homogeneity Effect (self.MensRights)

(3|4) submitted  02 Jan 2013 by mordicaii

Does the Men's Rights movement support gay rights? (self.MensRights)

submitted 02 Jan 2013 by Fisto27
Why is there a double standard in r/MensRights when it comes to generalization of feminists? (self.MensRights)

(1|2) submitted 02 Jan 2013 by curlymeatball38

As a feminist, thank you r/MensRights. (self.MensRights)

(106|49) submitted 01 Jan 2013* by HereToHumilateAFrand

 ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those? (i.imgur.com)

submitted 01 Jan 2013 by thefran

 - heavily concern trolled by feminists  

Can We Try To Focus on Men's Rights, not "I Hate Feminists!" jokes? (self.MensRights)
(1649|610) submitted 30 Dec 2012* by absolutekraze

Mens Rights and Feminism on Egalitarianism (self.MensRights) 

(25|11) submitted 29 Dec 2012* by Fisto27

[QUESTION] "Modern" feminism? (self.MensRights) 

(15|12) submitted 27 Dec 2012 by JaguscothSRS


7 Tactics Used by Academic Feminists To Suppress Information (self.MensRights)

(624|169) submitted 26 Dec 2012* by actanonverba8 

Brigaded

Why Feminism will always be the enemy (self.MensRights)(90|74) submitted 26 Dec 2012* by DavidByron
(comment section)Where Girlwriteswhat gets downvote brigaded by /r/againstmensrights for asserting that effective birth control is better than ineffective birth control

Crucial Question about Men's Rights. Leave your opinion. (self.MensRights) 

(83|27) submitted  25 Dec 2012 by pastel-forest 

Christmas rape song? (self.MensRights) 

(17|14) submitted  25 Dec 2012 by prettylittledaggers 

Something i think we all should read because i feel this means that our two groups are able able to reach a common ground.(MRAs and Feminists) Xpost to /r/Feminism (chicagonow.com)
(256|72) submitted  25 Dec 2012 by Inbefore121

Men's Rights vs. Feminism vs. Egalitarianism (self.MensRights)

(58|23)  24 Dec 2012 by meetinmontauk  

If a new law is able to prosecute 50 actual rapists, but falsely imprisons 1, would you support it? (self.MensRights) 

(17|14) submitted 24 Dec 2012* by DJ_Fleetwood_MacBook

what do you look for in a partner? (self.MensRights)

(8|4) submitted 22 Dec 2012* by hentaipolice 

I'm perpetually baffled by this subreddit. Could someone explain to me why I never see any of the things constantly talked about here? (self.MensRights) 

(41|38) submitted 20 Dec 2012 by jawndisease

What is one facet of feminism each of you agrees with? (self.MensRights) 

(40|28) submitted 15 Dec 2012* by ArchangelleFascist

A little bothered by all the hypocrisy around here. (self.MensRights)

(11|18) submitted 14 Dec 2012* by pretzelzetzel

 Anyone else sick of this yet? (self.MensRights)

(26|22)submitted 14 Dec 2012 by Jernlov

I'm both a feminist and a MRA. (self.MensRights)
(111|68) submitted 11 Dec 2012* by TheCameraLady

A question from an outsider. (self.MensRights)
(20|16) submitted 11 Dec 2012 by carpetpowder

Gays in the MRM (self.MensRights)

submitted 9 Dec 2012* by whataboutthegays

Why do we have Men's Rights and Feminist Groups? Why not Gender Equality groups? (self.MensRights (8|11) submitted  04 Dec 2012 by Skwalin 

A discussion on the word feminism. (self.MensRights)

(5|5) submitted  04 Dec 2012 by ottawadeveloper 

Why do we have Men's Rights and Feminist Groups? Why not Gender Equality groups? (self.MensRights

 (7|10) submitted 04 Dec 2012 by Skwalin 

After just finding this sub a few days ago, I have some things I feel that I need to say, and would really love all your feedback. (self.MensRights)

(8|10) submitted  03 Dec 2012 by duck97 

A motion to make gay issues a bigger part of the mens' rights movement (self.MensRights)

submitted 02 Dec 2012 by JizzCreek

Well this is new. A feminist forum bringing awareness of men's rights issues, but still calling it feminism.(i.imgur.com)

(301|52) submitted  02 Dec 2012 by idontgiveitout

Not a troll post, but feminists converged on it to try to out-shout MRAs.

I'm a little confused (self.MensRights) 

(32|10) submitted  01 Dec 2012 by Tatshua 

HS teacher here, grading a student's paper on Rape Culture. (self.MensRights)

submitted 28 Nov 2013 by 11thGRADEteacherFishing
I could be wrong, and this could just be a badly concluded paper, but the presentation of it here in this manner makes this post look to me like a quote-mining effort instead of a genuine attempt to get a paper graded, as it would provide a quote-miner with the ability to refer back to it later and twist people's comments into "MRAs support refusing to prosecute anyone accused of acquaintance rape," which will in turn be stretched to mean "MRAs support rape."

What do you people actually believe? (self.MensRights)

(20|21) submitted 19 Nov 2012 by jonahofscott 

Why is Men's Rights so anti-women/anti-feminist? (self.MensRights)

(9|18) submitted  19 Nov 2012 by DerpinaTheThird 

    See also this post

I would consider myself both a feminist and masculinist. I am beginning to have a severe problem with this sub-reddit. (self.MensRights)

(5|12) submitted  16 Nov 2012* by metascorpio 

Why "Men's Rights" and not simply Egalitarianism? (self.MensRights)

(72|26) submitted  12 Nov 2012o* by aPseudonymPho 

Question from a feminist, part 1. (self.MensRights)
(18|11) submitted  04 Nov 2012 by Fundieathiest

(Didn't find anything beyond "part 1.") 

What does Mens Rights do for women, and what makes it different from feminism? (self.MensRights)

(13|13) submitted  04 Nov 2012 by Segaga

Why can't I be a feminist and a MRA? (self.MensRights)

(14|10) submitted  24 Oct 2012 ago by AlexisNicole

Feminist Here with some questions. Not looking to start a fight, but I just want to learn/understand. Long post sorry. (self.MensRights) 

(124|40) submitted  20 Oct 2012* by femquestionthr 

Feminist here with an honest question--before you bite, hear me out... (self.MensRights)

(69|31) submitted  10 Oct 2012* by Thermodynamo 

Men's Rights and Women's Rights are both Human Rights (self.MensRights)

(269|55) submitted 03 Oct 2012 by deerp 

Can you Guys Please Explain to me why you do this? (self.MensRights)

(55|52submitted 23 Sep 2012* by Irishladdie

A misrepresentation of feminists. (self.MensRights)

(8|10) submitted  23 Sep 2012 by MRdaBakkle

A male feminist told me that us MRA's should discuss what we think we should do about the homophobia that is so very prevalent in men. I think he's right. So what do you guys think? (self.MensRights)

(95|42) submitted 21 Sep 2012 by Not_A_Triceratops  SRS

Dear MRAs, as a feminist I am genuinely interested in your oppression. But what good is feminist bashing to your cause? (self.MensRights)
(13|17) submitted  20 Sep 2012* by littlepocketknife

Why all the feminist bashing? 

Is the men's rights movement too focused on being the anti-feminist movement? (self.MensRights)
(114|44) submitted  11 Sep 2012 ago by Sigwein

I think we should stop using the word feminist. (self.MensRights)

(14|15) submitted  10 Sep 2012* by ADevilNamedBen

Do you think Feminists can ever get along with MRA's? (self.MensRights)(16|9) submitted  29 Aug 2012 by Species_0002

Can I be a Men's Rights activist and a Feminist at the same time? (self.MensRights) 

(49|18) submitted 23 Aug 2012 by upboatshoes

serious question: why aren't you feminists? (self.MensRights)

(41|33) submitted 22 Aug 2012 by toptrool

MR, what's your biggest "feminist" belief, or opinion that wouldn't mesh well with other MRA's? (self.MensRights)

(31|15) submitted 16 Aug 2012 by 12431 

I'm an aspiring equity feminist and I have some questions for you. (self.MensRights)(28|27) submitted  02 Aug 2012* by PurpleVNeck

Female with a question about alliance-building around gender equality (self.MensRights)

submitted 01 Aug 2012* by tmesispieces 

Feminism is not misandry (self.MensRights)

(87|57) submitted 11 Jul 2012 by pg402 

I had this impression that Men's Rights and Feminism are working towards the same ideal- am I missing something? (self.MensRights) 

(39|11) submitted 8 Jul 2012* by MrShenanigans

Feminists converged on this post to play victim Olympics over circumcision:  

I said circumcision is equivocal to female genital mutilation in my college class. uh oh. (self.MensRights

 (661|186) submitted 14 Jun 2012* by shmittywerber 

Why don't we call ourselves feminists? (self.MensRights) 

(12|14) submitted 08 Jun 2012 by trombodachi 

I have an honest question. (self.MensRights) 

(50|22) submitted 29 May 2012* by glass_hedgehog  

How do you feel about gay rights, MRAs? (self.MensRights)

submitted  23 May 2012 by secaedelcielo

Not a troll post, but this one has been concern tolled by feminists

Isn't this subreddit getting kind of biased? (self.MensRights)

(13|23) submitted 23 May 2012 by FF15 

A quick word on feminists (self.MensRights)
(35|9) submitted 01 May 2012 by nlakes

 Appeal for more diplomatic feminist labels in discussion.

  

Why are we talking about (radical) feminists? (self.MensRights)(58|21) submitted 14 Apr 2012 by Police_Murdering_Us

Reclaiming the word feminism. (self.MensRights)

(35|37) submitted 11 Apr 2012* by muckette

Do you hate Feminists? (self.MensRights)

(32|17) submitted 01 Apr 2012* by RyanLikesyoface 

Can we PLEASE stop with the hate-speech directed towards Women's Rights activism? (self.MensRights

 (24|29) submitted 31 Mar 2012* by Fluffy_Fsh 

"Evil feminists" vs. "A man's role in society"? (self.MensRights) 

(38|17) submitted 31 Mar 2012* by radiojojo

I'm new to Men's Rights and I am a feminist. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to let you know that I (and I believe most feminists my age) agree with the basic tenets of MRAs, if not the language and attitude of it.

Do you have to be an anti-feminist to be a MRA? (self.MensRights) 

(34|19) submitted 30 Mar 2012 ago by kratistos 

Trans issues are part of men's rights (self.MensRights)

submitted  05 Mar 2012* by TheJumboShrimp 

This subreddit needs to shake off its anti-women reputation for the sake of these issues being taken seriously. (self.MensRights)

(574|233) submitted 04 Mar 2012 by steam-pug 

I wandered in here today and I'm a little hurt. (self.MensRights) 

(34|19) submitted 10 Feb 2012* by newsgentry 

I support complete gender equality, but the attitude towards feminism here is a bit disappointing... (self.MensRights)
(25|27) submitted 05 Jan 2012* by hippiechan

A suggestion for MensRights to maybe help the dialogue. (self.MensRights)
(13|14) submitted  01 Dec 2011 by dangerousbirde 

Feminists for men's rights (self.MensRights)

(13|18) submitted 30 Sep 2011* by feminazibitchyoumad 

So are gay men's rights somehow less important than straight men's rights? (self.MensRights)

submitted 30 Sep 2011 by treybuchet

I have a serious question. (self.MensRights)

(11|11) submitted  09 Sep 2011 * by omniamutantir

Am I allowed to identify as both a Feminist and an MRA? (self.MensRights)
submitted  07 Sep 2011 by twelveovertwo

Common Ground Between MRAs and Feminists (self.MensRights)
(25|19) submitted 04 Sep 2011* by topoi

So, I noticed the "are you a feminist" question in the MensRights side bar - Yes, I am a feminist (self.MensRights) 

(34|24) submitted  13 Aug 2011 by paulfromatlanta 

Something I've been thinking about feminism and gender egalitarianism. I'm here for good discussion, not to attack you. Please give me the same courtesy. (self.MensRights)

(39|34) submitted 07 Aug 2011* by taranov2007 

I'm tired of MensRights and feminism acting like they are at war, so I created a reddit for us all to talk about issues of gender equality. (self.MensRights)(14|20) submitted 31 Jul 2011 by Iankap

What's the deal with /r/MensRights vs /r/Feminisms? (self.MensRights) 

(32|26) submitted  26 Jul 2011 by RogueEagle 

Straight MRAs, how do you feel about gay MRAs who don't always have the same issues that you do? (self.MensRights)
submitted  23 Jun 2011* by Silgrenus

How does mensrights feel about transgendered people, transmen, transwomen, the genderless and so on? (self.MensRights)

submitted 17 Jul 2011 by MuForceShoelace 

 

Don't MRAs and feminists both want gender equality? Where's the big disagreement? (self.MensRights

 (61|38) submitted 03 Jul 2011 by MasCapital SRS 

I have a question? (self.MensRights) 

(13|8) submitted  08 Jun 2011 by plumeria

As a feminist, I have complicated feelings about the "men's rights movement," as you might imagine. (femaletalk.com)

(26|23) submitted  01 Apr 2011 by cracksandwich 

Why does it have to be one or the other? (self.MensRights)
(30|20) submitted  08 Mar 2011 by gerberakasbah

Does r/mensrights realize that the only people standing in the way of mens rights are other men? (self.MensRights)

(22|23) submitted  28 Feb 2011 by rabbaroo

Guys... let's Think before we Link. (self.MensRights)

(332|113) submitted  18 Feb 2011 by iamunstrung

I'm a feminist, I believe in men's rights. (self.MensRights) 

(44|38) submitted  03 Feb 2011* by conn1e

I'm sorry, but I just had to say something. I'm sick of all these threads complaining about 'stupid feminist' and 'feminazis' and whatever other derogatory crap you want to throw at women who believe in equality for them.
I love this forum, it's great, men get kicked around some times too. This should be fought for too. But don't sink to the same low as these women who think they're feminists, but arn't, and slander men.
A true feminist just wants a fair go, she wants to work as hard as you (at WHATEVER, except maybe something like sport that is just genuinely unfair due to anatomy). This includes working when she's got her period, or pregnant. She's not a princess bitching about how men don't kiss her feet.
Don't slander feminists, they're supporting you. We can't be equal if men aren't.
Edit: Um wow. This is exactly what I needed to understand. I was angry because I lacked insight, into men's AND women's rights. I don't have the sheer power to reply to you all but once again, thankyou. I feel a bit emotional. I think I need to do a bit of reflection.
TL;DR, I am equalitarian. :)

Preparing for massive downvotes, but would like to share my opinion (self.MensRights)
(702|412) submitted  14 Jan 2011* by joannchilada

 (NAFALT)

I know many MR readers *really* don't like feminists, but I thought this was an interesting study (self.MensRights)(5|9) submitted 30 Oct 2010* by a_curious_koala

A question from an employee of a "feminist" non-profit (self.MensRights)

(10|3) submitted 21 Aug 2010 by GoingTo

Feminism really the enemy? (self.MensRights) 

(41|28) submitted 30 May 2010 ago by Linnbe

Hey, MensRights! How do you feel about transgender men? (self.MensRights)

submitted 10 Apr 2010* by AHumanThatListens

Are gay rights a men's rights issue or not ? (self.MensRights)

submitted 18 Mar 2010 by Leprecon

I have a question for /MR on female privilege in this society (self.MensRights) 

(27|8) submitted  18 Dec 2009 by gotaquestion