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Showing posts with label rape culture. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rape culture. Show all posts

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Rape/Assault victims: Phoebe Greenwood wants to hear from you (either sex) if your assault was dismissed "because you had been drinking." She tweeted a few hours ago that she was looking for such stories from women. In response to a reply criticizing her for ignoring male victims, she amended her statement in a second tweet, saying she'd be interested in hearing from men, as well.  
   
I think she should hear from victims whose assault was dismissed because they're male, or because their perpetrator was female, which I believe happens far more often than the dismissal of an assault strictly because the victim was drinking, regardless of gender.    

    
Why?    
    
Because this looks like a case of a feminist journalist attempting to use reporting only part of the story to support feminism's female-victim rape culture narrative.

How can you help?

If you've been victimized and you've been dismissed when seeking assistance or legal recourse, either because you're male or your perpetrator was female, or if you're male, because you'd been drinking (her original question) please reply to the tweet I sent in response to her request, and describe your experience. If it can't be put into 140 characters, Twit longer is a useful tool for creating longer than normal tweets. The tweet will then show the title, with the option of viewing the rest of the post.

If you haven't, but you know someone who has been dismissed while seeking assistance for any of those reasons, pass the tweet on. If you can, tweet a link to it with a request for responses.

Please only tweet responses that describe wrongful dismissal of your own experience or the experience of someone you know. Though it is frustrating to deal with a person who seems to have an anti-male or at least male-dismissive bias, this will only be productive if we offer evidence rather than blunt or emotional criticism, no matter how justified it might be.

I don't know if we'll touch her heart or change her mind, but at the very least, maybe receiving examples will help Ms. Greenwood see that narrowing her focus to support a narrative won't go unnoticed.



Transcript for my video, "Rant on Enthusiastic Consent"

Video Link

This isn't a response video, just a short rant about feminism and consent... particularly the "enthusiastic consent" standard, which is getting more and more coverage and has now been adopted into law in California.

This is something I've discussed in various other forums for years, and there's a response I consistently get that is terribly dishonest so I want to address it now & get it out of the way. All of feminism's various approaches to separating consensual sex from sexual violence rely on the very same traditional gender roles and stereotyping they claim to oppose. Every campaign they've had has been based on assuming that the male role in a sex encounter is seeker, and the female role is gatekeeper.

Their portrayal of social interaction is insultingly melodramatic, presenting the female role as that of a naive, helpless non-participant who never seeks sex and never has control over our environment or ourselves, making men and boys, with the inferred privilege of agency and strength, responsible for us by insinuation.
They, in turn, are presented with a false dichotomy: Fill the age-old role of women's guardians and protectors, or by default fit the villain portrayed in these campaign's propaganda; indiscriminately sex-obsessed, insensitive, pushy, and unscrupulous about where and how he gets what he wants.

When that reliance on traditional roles and stereotypes is pointed out, then and only then do feminists promoting any given campaign ever mention male consent as a factor. Often, that mention is limited to homosexual relationships, thereby still excluding female responsibility for obtaining consent, until that, too is pointed out. It takes a hard push against their own lack of self-awareness before feminists even so much as pay lip service to the human rights of men and boys in relation to sexual choice.

So before anyone responds to this video with statements about how your particular brand of feminist consent campaign includes men and boys and therefore isn't about demonizing and dehumanizing them, you'd better be willing to prove that from the beginning, you've been equally targeting females with "don't rape" messages, equally teaching women and girls not to assume their advances are wanted or accepted, equally portraying them the same way your campaign portrays men and boys... in short, assigning women and girls the same responsibility and accountability for their role in an encounter as you do men or boys.

If not, you might want to re-examine your claim that you're giving male consent equal time. If you're following the existing formula that relies on presenting hapless female helplessness and ineptitude as the norm, you can't rightfully make that argument, and it's a waste of your time to bother making it here.

With that out of the way, on to the rant itself.

I wrote about this a while back in my breaking the glasses post about the enthusiastic consent standard, titled Tit for tat: A standard advocated is a standard owed. I'm going to revisit it here so although the article is a longer statement, much of what I'm saying will be the same.

According to feminism's expressed rhetoric on the enthusiastic consent standard, spoken word is the only acceptable method by which female consent during a heterosexual encounter may be accurately confirmed.
The inference is that nothing a woman does, even to the point of aggressive sexual pursuit of a man, indicates consent to sex. It's basically a statement that no matter what action a woman takes, men must ask for permission to respond, even in kind.

Within this mentality, a man's consent is assumed, partly on the basis of the same behaviors feminists claim don't indicate a woman's consent, but mostly just because he's a man. This standard relies on treating women's sexuality as sacred and coveted, while condemning male sexuality as automatically predatory and in a way, larcenous. It's very clearly intended as nothing more than a means of enforcing the traditional male seeker, female gatekeeper sexual dynamic women use to make sex a tool for manipulating men.

I don't think men have to let it be used that way.

Instead of accepting the imposition of these traditional dynamics, if you're living in an environment where this is now the legal standard, you can use it to cast those dynamics off.

For one thing, stop juming through hoops to earn the affection of women who can't even be troubled to respond to your efforts with equal enthusiasm. Stop shouldering all of the responsibility for the experiences of both parties.

Most of all, don't accept being treated like your consent is a given.

While feminists advocate their enthusiastic consent model as a means of giving women the upper hand, logic makes it a reason for men to exercise the right of refusal when you are not comfortable or satisfied with the dynamics of an encounter.
Nobody is entitled to your attention or affection. Being male doesn't make you community property.

Don't let women treat you like it does.

If nothing else, you have the right to protect yourself from what this standard turns shy or demure women into; essentially Schrodinger's false accuser. After all, you're being told that a woman's participation in a sex act isn't valid consent unless she enthusiastically says so.

She can initiate sex with you, make all of the advances, ride you like a post horse and later accuse you of committing a felony because she didn't say the magic words.

Logically, that's reason to presume heterosexual sex a risky proposal that you're entitled approach with suspicion. You've got every right to require that your partner prove her intent with clear, unmistakable communication before you give your consent. It's reasonable for you to reserve your attention, your affection, your regard, and your trust for only someone willing to give you that reassurance.

And really, you should have been entitled to expect that all along anyway. You're no less deserving than a woman is to be treated as a wanted and interesting partner, to be offered an equal experience of demonstrated intent to please and impress.

Don't settle for some lazy scumbag who expects you to put in all of the effort while she sits back and makes you guess.

Don't tolerate getting treated like a beggar or a slave instead of a romantic interest.

Don't accept being ignored or lied to throughout a sexual encounter.

Those behaviors are abusive.

If the woman you're with cannot afford you the human dignity to treat you as, and act as, an equal partner, she hasn't earned the right to be one. No one has the right to expect you to put up with that, and you don't have to.

You never should have, but now you can also cite this standard and the danger it presents as supporting reasons why you refuse.

As for any women watching this who are offended by what I've said, I'm not the person you should be complaining to about it. Tell your feminist friends who have asserted that male courtship behavior is predatory, consent resulting from it isn't consent, and only verbal communication is communication.

They've made these demands in your name and governing bodies are listening.

Therefore, you no longer have the right to expect to be courted for your attention, subtly flirted with, or even treated like your own actions are intentional, because men have been authoritatively told that when they give you that they're abusing you.

Protesting the expectations I just laid out is asking your potential partners to risk a rape charge just to be with you.

That's a hell of a demand to make, and frankly, there is not a person on earth whose attention is worth that risk. Therefore, women, it IS your responsibility to prove yourself trustworthy... or even worthy at all, the same responsibility men have always had. You no longer have the right to sit back and expect a man to impress you, while you attempt to maintain an air of demure, modest propriety. If you're shy, if you prefer a traditional approach, if you like to be romanced... well, tough shit. Get over it. It's the 21st century now, and you're outdated.

Realize that a requirement for communication goes both ways.

If men are to be expected to obtain communication, women must be equally expected to provide it.
By asserting that men may be expected to assume that anything a you don't directly and clearly request is unwanted, feminists have given men license to assume that you don't want anything until it has been directly and clearly requested.

They haven't just placed the greater burden on men to obtain verbal consent, or be guilty of rape.
They've placed an equal burden on you to speak up and do so with enthusiasm, or go without sexual intimacy.

So it's on you now. Quit being so lazy.

Get off of your ass, stop expecting to sit back and leave all of the work in a relationship to the guy, and start proving yourself the way they've had to for centuries.

Under the circumstances, you're an abusive asshole if you don't.

Zombie culture. It's not alive, but it's not dead, either.

It has come to my attention that feminists just don't understand zombies. The group has been redefining the word zombie with looser and looser connotations, blurring the line between innocent people and the flesh-eating monsters we all fear, and using unmerited shaming tactics to silence people who disagree with their opinions.

For the record, I'd like to state a few distinctions.


Being hungry does not make someone a zombie.

Enjoying and engaging in bite-play does not make someone a zombie.

Eating a gelatin dessert molded in the shape of a brain does not make someone a zombie.  

Zombie jokes are speech. If you don't like them, don't listen.

Reading zombie-perspective fiction or playing zombie-perspective games is not a zombie attack. Enjoying those media does not mean the user is secretly a zombie.

Games, shows, and literature which portray people as zombie attack victims do not infect players, viewers or readers with the zombie virus.

The involvement of some alcohol does not make mutually engaged roughhousing between two uninfected people a zombie attack by one against the other.

It is dishonest for you to smack someone in the mouth and then later label him a zombie just because his teeth were involved.

If you get drunk and bite someone because you wanted to, that does not make him a zombie, even if he bites you back.

When a person merely looks at you, that is not a zombie attack, even if you don't want the attention.


A person who says hello to you is not automatically trying to bite you, even if you weren't seeking engagement.

Asking you out for coffee is not a zombie attack, even if you don't want to go out for coffee.

A discussion that does not involve you is not a zombie attack, even if you don't like what's being said.

A discussion that does involve you does not become a zombie attack if you don't like the information you're learning.


A person who walks with a limp is not necessarily a zombie.

If you hug a zombie, it is likely to bite you. It is your responsibility to know this.

If you have dinner with someone, that is not a zombie attack against you, even if you didn't tell him to eat.

If your neighbor eats cheeseburgers knowing full well that you are a vegetarian, that does not make him a zombie.

If you don't want dinner right now but your husband makes himself a sandwich and eats it, that's not the same as feeding you or himself to zombies.

If you become infected and you bite someone that person is just as much a victim of a zombie attack as you were when you were bitten.

Zombie virus infection is not a gender-specific trait.

Gender does not affect whether a person attacked by zombies is a zombie attack victim.

The gender of the victim does not make a zombie attack any more or less scary, painful, dangerous, or fun.

Zombies do not eat people on accident.

Rumors of zombie attacks are not solid proof of a zombie invasion.

Calling someone a zombie does not make him a zombie. It does not justify locking him in the closet or shooting him in the face.

Zombie status doesn't transfer by common human trait association. If one zombie has red hair that does not make all gingers zombies or potential zombies.

If you pass a person on the street, being a stranger doesn't make him Schrodinger's zombie. Neither does being male.

If an uninfected person bites you because you put your fingers in his mouth, that's not a zombie attack even if you didn't say "Bite me!"

If you do say "bite me" and someone does, it doesn't make him a zombie if you didn't mean it that way.

Locking up or shooting the uninfected does nothing to prevent zombie attacks against the general population.

If there is a cure for the zombie virus, administering the cure and then shooting the zombie anyway is inhumane. Even if you have no compassion for recovering zombies, such an action would be unproductive and wasteful. Administering a placebo and letting a zombie languish in isolation expecting to get better before you shoot him is equally inhumane, unproductive, and wasteful. 

Surviving one zombie attack does not make you an expert on zombies.

Being a potential zombie attack victim does not give you an excuse to mistreat strangers.

Other uninfected people are not responsible for what zombies do.

Talking to other uninfected people about your rights doesn't change what zombies do.

If you give someone permission to bite you, changing your mind while his teeth are sunk into your skin doesn't make him a zombie.

Your personal dislike for a person does not make him a zombie or potential zombie.

If you use a needle to inject someone with the zombie virus, you've infected him, even if you didn't bite him.

A person immune to the zombie virus does not have to conform to your expectations of suffering and degeneration after surviving a zombie attack. Failing to rot and fall to pieces is not an attack on other zombie bite victims.

Disagreeing with you about methods for defense against zombies does not make anyone a zombie sympathizer.

Hopefully this has cleared up a few of the more ridiculous myths that have been preventing our society from effectively addressing the impending zombie apocalypse that zombie experts keep predicting.

Flaws in the logic of feminist "victim blaming" accusations

The "victim blaming" myth of feminism's "rape culture" theory is based on combining a logical fallacy called affirming the consequent with a type of circular reasoning called Begging the Question . Affirming the consequent is an argument in which the individual assumes that if one factor results from another, it can also be used to prove the other, when one is not discussing bi-conditional factors (either/or) but factors for which there can be variables. Begging the question is an argument based on the assumption that its own conclusion is true.

Begging the question
The link contains extensive discussion. It explains circular reasoning thus:
To beg the question is to assume something that you have no right to assume. What don't you have a right to assume? The conclusion itself, obviously, or any proposition that is just the conclusion stated in different words. Clearly, to use any argument in which the conclusion is also one of the premisses is to reason in a circle: reasoning from the premisses to the conclusion brings you back to where you started.
Feminist "victim blaming" accusations start with two wrongful assumptions.

First, feminists assume that the individual under discussion is a victim (feminists label incidents "rape"  whether their assigned "victim" agrees with them or not). This includes circumstances where the female they want to label "victim" has actively engaged in consensual sex and later regretted it for any reason, even when the "victim" doesn't feel victimized. An example of the practical application of feminist ideological advocacy on this is university responses; my daughter has been taught at her university that any alcohol consumption at all negates a woman's ability to consent to sex. That, when combined with the campus SaVE act, indicates that if a regularly sexually active heterosexual couple has sex after the two of them have each consumed a single drink, and someone (it doesn't have to be the girl) makes a complaint against the guy, he may be considered guilty of rape, expelled from school, and barred from attending other universities in the state. Further, the censure would be reflected on his academic record, and could influence legal proceedings on the matter.

Second, feminists assume that a "victim's" interest in exercising her own agency to control her risk level is automatically unreasonable and therefore a dysfunction. This argument extends to treating anything women do outside of feminist-led organizational advisement as a sign of "self-blame," whether it's an effective means of self-defense or not. These groups protest the idea that women and girls should be encouraged to learn and use self-defense, then obtain government and other grant funding to teach self-defense to recovering victims. Not only is that a conflict of interest (feminist organizations profit from convincing women that they can't defend themselves without feminists' approval,) it's self-contradictory. Either attempting to control one's risk level is always an irrational, dysfunctional response to danger, or it's sometimes not - even if doing so is not under the controlled guidance of feminist ideology. 

With these in mind, feminist "logic" proceeds by labeling women's regret of their own choices preceding or during a sexual encounter "self-blame." Both assumptions are articulated for the purpose of labeling discussion on rape prevention "victim blaming."  One cannot argue in debate that women have the right or responsibility to exercise mindful awareness the same as is expected of men without being accused of victim blaming. One cannot differentiate between an act of contravening a person's right to refuse intimate contact and a sexual encounter that is later regretted by one party or the other without being accused of victim blaming.

Affirming the consequent
The example in the link uses several scenarios. I want to look for a minute at just the first two.

1) If Bill Gates owns Fort Knox, then he is rich.
2) Bill Gates is rich.
3) Therefore, he owns Fort Knox.

The fallacy is obvious in that example. That one is rich isn't necessarily an indication of what specific things one owns. It's simply a measure of one's overall wealth. It's less obvious in the second, as we often "diagnose" ourselves based on past experience. This is a much more common mistake.

1) If I have the flu, then I have a sore throat.
2) I have a sore throat.
3) Therefore, I have the flu.

This often takes the form of "Last time I had symptom X, I was diagnosed with Y. I have symptom X again, so it must be Y again.

As the factors appear more related or the issue becomes more clouded with additional steps (such as past experience) or ideology, it becomes easier for the mind to disguise that mistake as a reasonable course of thought. The flaws in in the "logic" behind feminist claims of victim blaming are similarly clouded by combining two different fallacies to reach a flawed conclusion, but once you see them, they're glaringly obvious.

The flaw begins with "If a trauma makes the victim feel helpless and afraid, then the victim will adopt behaviors to try to gain control over future circumstances to avoid experiencing the trauma again." Feminists insert "begging the question" twice between what would be steps 1 and 2 in order to impose the victim label. This expands the flaw to 5 steps and clouds it enough to hide the flaw from most individuals.

1) If a trauma makes the victim feel helpless and afraid, then the victim will adopt behaviors to try to gain control over future circumstances to avoid experiencing the trauma again.
  • Trauma such as combat conditions sometimes leads to (Post Traumitc Stress Disorder) PTSD.
    One of the symptoms of PTSD is the sufferer's tendency to blame himself for conditions he could not control, and to adopt behaviors to try to gain a measure of control over those conditions. Since the conditions can't be controlled, those behaviors focus on what can mitigate their impact. This is why war vets in your circle of friends and family may be unable to sit with their backs exposed to unseen approach. One cannot control what another person is going to do, but one can influence one's ability to see it coming.
    Another is to attribute significance to conditions which don't affect the outcome of a situation, and adopt behaviors to control those conditions. That's not a tendency that is unique to stress disorders; having a lucky item without which you feel more vulnerable to misfortune is an example.
    Another is to (out of stress-trained habit) apply defensive responses which are necessary in frequently, unpredictably violent circumstances to ordinarily peaceful situations. An example of this is when a vet is triggered to respond in self-defense or even with panic when there is a loud noise that's similar to the noise he experienced during combat.
That's established from treatment of war vets who suffer from PTSD following tours of duty in which they faced conditions of life-threatening violence.
  • Rape can be a traumatic experience.
That's established from evaluation of female victims of violent rape. It's also established that rape victims can have similar PTSD responses. However, feminists misuse both the term rape and the term PTSD, applying them to circumstances that don't merit either one.

2) Begging the question; assuming victimization, as described above.

3) Begging the question; assuming that mindful behavior is dysfunction if sexual violence is at issue, also described above.

4) The (person we labeled) victim has adopted behaviors to avoid revisiting a regretted or upsetting experience.

Because feminists have already applied the label "rape" whether the female's ability to refuse was contravened or she now regrets a conscious choice to consent, they fall right into affirming the consequent.

5) The (person we labeled) victim must be traumatized and responding to feelings of helplessness and fear 

This leads to the assertion that discussion on women's power to take control over any factors surrounding incidents feminists want to call rape (which include rape, but also include regretted consensual sex acts) is victim blaming and therefore verboten. That is how feminists argue that being upset about a sexual encounter makes it rape regardless of what happened during the encounter, and use "victim blaming" as a thought-terminating cliche to stifle rational discussion on the topic. 
Their argument is invalid in several places.
  • That the discussion is about rape and not some other area of risk does not change what is and what is not a reasonable expectation of personal responsibility for one's own safety. Feminists argue as if it does.
  • The presumption that assuming control over your environment is automatically unreasonable is bullshit. That something can be stretched to an unreasonable level (for example, never wearing red because you were wearing red when you got shot) does not make responses to one's environment (for example, wearing your seat-belt because you know that an impact could send you through the windshield without it) unreasonable.
  • The presumption that a sexual choice regretted by a woman indicates that she was raped is also bullshit. Humans regularly make decisions we regret without being told that since we regret the decision, it must have been imposed on us from the outside. Force, coercion, or incapacitation are ways of imposing. When an individual simply makes a bad decision, it's not imposed, and it's not unreasonable to feel responsible instead of victimized. A woman who did something while drunk that when sober she realizes was a bad idea is not the victim that a woman who was raped while passed out or unresponsive would be.
  • The consequent doesn't prove the antecedent. Assuming responsibility for factors under one's control which can affect the outcome of a circumstance is not necessarily an illegitimate conclusion, even when not all of the factors one encountered in said circumstance were under one's control. Changing one's behavior to avoid the consequences of a bad decision is not automatically dysfunctional choice that indicates trauma. It's also a sign of learning. To qualify as an irrational response to trauma, that change must be unproductive as a means of improving one's situation with respect to risk, or so burdensome that its drawbacks outweigh its benefits.
Don't allow feminist debaters to use a logical fallacy to pressure you into adopting a belief in something they haven't proved exists or occurs. The existence of the factors under discussion; rape, trauma, post traumatic stress disorder, and feminist-led therapy, do not automatically lead to the conclusion that the rape culture of feminist imagining is a real thing. To demonstrate that, they need to connect those factors with logic in a way that does not rely on baseless assumptions.

Alison Tieman: Men's rights vs feminist rape culture explained





On its own, without the dialogue at the end, Alison's video makes its own solid point: There is no reasonable, rational cause to differentiate in our language between what we call it when a man forces himself sexually upon a woman, and when a woman forces herself sexually upon a man. It is the same violation. It is the same malicious behavior. It is the same intent to contravene the victim's right to refuse. It should be classified as the same crime, without prejudice of any kind involved in that determination.

The dialogue at the end shows that there's more to this than people realize, that when the thought process behind determining that raping a man isn't rape is held up to even simple scrutiny, it becomes very, very ugly.

Just for a moment, think about what is being said by the CDC's researcher at the end of the video.  

"There is a definition of rape, and it's a separate form of victimization..."
See, it's different when a woman does it to a man. Because we said so.

"These are in line with the CDC uniform definitions for sexual violence."
Male rape victims don't deserve as much acknowledgement as female rape victims because Authority said so. 

"We're the first survey to actually include this 'made to penetrate'." This, followed by the admonition that there's "experts and processes from all over the country going back several years." So for all of those years feminists worked to study sex crime, they excluded male victims of female perpetrators, because male victims weren't an area of interest for them. And that makes defining rape to exclude them A-ok, right? Because that's the way they've always done it.
 
What does she mean by using the word "construct" in answer to a question about why forcing unwanted sex on a man is not rape? Does the CDC consider rape a construct, instead of a real concept? Rape isn't real?

If rape isn't real, obviously the language used to describe the act becomes very, very important; defining, in fact. So using a different word for the rape of one sex than the rape of the other would be a concrete way of defining victimization of the sex denied recognition out of existence. Deny them the "construct," and you can erase the crime.

Feminists, who exploit proxy female victim status for political and social power, portray rape as a crime committed as an attack on the individual's gender, not just the individual. In order for them to be able to support their treatment of rape as a gendered crime, and exploit the proxy victim status that narrative creates for them, they cannot have anywhere near equal numbers of male victims. They especially cannot have male victims of female perpetrators. They cannot admit that women do commit rape. They cannot admit that women can commit rape. That is why they've worked so hard to erase male victims of female perpetrators; not because women don't rape, but because feminists don't benefit from talking about it.

Why do male feminists support campaigns that label all men rapists-in-waiting?

Seriously, this is probably one of the most subtly disturbing things about male feminists.

I mean, they have to have some kind of a basis for believing that "rapist" is the natural "untrained" male state of being, because that's pretty much what they're expressing... but the implication of that carries what I'd think would feel to a rational person like intellectual splashback. 

You'd expect a person to be shocked when confronted with the notion that behavior he finds abhorrent is not just common to his sex, but supposedly universal. You'd expect denial, especially from someone without any tendency to exhibit the behavior. A non-rapey man should be appalled at being told that all men are potential rapists, and he should be offended and outraged at having that label applied to him. He should feel like he's been lied about.

For a guy to simply stand by and accept the label, or worse, participate in the application of it to other men indicates something about him... yet male feminists as a group do exactly that.

Here you have a bunch of guys supporting advocacy that says all guys are predisposed to rape unless taught otherwise.

That has to include themselves, doesn't it?

Is the reason they support the idea is because they think all other men... are just like them?
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